Scanning the internet in the last few days after the vision of the 8yr old Swedish boy made me think that I better put another blog post up. Too many people are putting all their hopes into a vision that may or may not come to fruition. I for one have some questions with some of the things about it and I am being reserved in my expectations but, It is still very intriguing and exciting to think that it will pan out. That said, we are not to focus on dreams and visions as our sole hope. We are to use discernment by going to Jesus in prayer and to the scriptures. Some of the things in the vision make me wonder. It may well be that the vision is not being understood properly and that there is some symbolism that is being overlooked. We won’t know until we know.
I do know that per God’s word in Deuteronomy 18:20-22 it says this ~ 20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
So, if it does not come true then it is most likely false and not from God. We need to take this into consideration in all things especially when it pertains to dreams and visions. Now, that being the case there are other factors to take in mind such as the person receiving the dream or vision not fully understanding what is being taught or even perhaps they jumped the gun and shared something that was meant to be personal and just for them. OR, perhaps they are adding a date since they just received the dream/vision and assume it is for the time they have it instead of a future time frame. This is the case for all people including pastors or teachers. Before shouting false prophet and being on the attack. We have to take all things into consideration and keep them in proper context. I’d also like to note that if someone does not agree with your particular doctrine it does not mean they are not saved or believers in Jesus and the gospel of salvation by repenting and being saved by Jesus’ death and resurrection. UNLESS, they state otherwise and to the contrary like God’s word tells us. God’s word tells us that if they are leading us to OTHER gods then they are false. Is the person leading you astray to other gods and away from salvation in Jesus and Jesus alone? If you have questions and concerns with a brother or sister in Christ then you need to go to them in private to have it addressed and if the answer is contrary to God’s word or the person is not being receptive THEN take it to the brethern to discern and work out. All that aside, in my look up on this matter I came across this person’s wonderings in a forum and it brings out valid and reasonable thoughts on the matter. (click on link to read the responses)
Does a prophet have to be 100% correct?
I have been thinking over this topic for some time. Some say that if a man prophesies and it does not come to pass even once then they are false prophets. I once was fully convinced of this and am now looking more into it. I believe the passage comes out of Deuteronomy.
Deuteronomy 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.
The first thing I noticed when presently reading over this cited text is that it does not say the man is a false prophet it merely says he spoke presumptuously and the word he spoke is false.
There is another passage in Deuteronomy that damns a prophet, but that is in context to whether a prophet tries to turn them away from the ways of the Lord.
Deuteronomy 13:5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the LORD your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.
One of the main reasons that I previously strongly held to the position that if ever a man prophesies falsely he is false is this. I figured if God shows up to you and speaks to you then how can you be wrong. However something else has come into play. That something else is the still small voice doctrine.
I do not really hold to the title of still small voice since that text is actually in context speaking of something else then prophesy. The idea of the still small voice I believe though to have legitimacy. What I mean is that God is spirit and he deals with us in our spirit. So often our flesh is loud and our spirit small and soft to the ear. To him who has an ear let him hear.
So I would think that if someone were prophesying from the place of spiritual perception that he may at times be wrong. I mean often our emotions can get in the way and also out hearts can deceive us even as Christians.
Therefore if one of us even says I believe God is leading me this way or that that is a form of prophesy and which one of us has not been wrong in thinking God was telling us something when he was not. So are we all false prophets to be stoned and damned and labeled and stamped permanently and never heeded?
One man stated that he believed that we are not always accurate because we are not always mature and we are not yet ready for such accountability if we were given such grace to be a 100% authoritative prophet.
Plus, I would also add are not some of the things spoken in Deuteronomy of being under the law. So is not there grace to certain extents in this realm?
Also, if one says one is false for one error then are we also damned fully false for ever sinning in one area. Or if an Apostle ever erred as an Apostle is he then no longer an Apostle like Peter who was found at a time a hypocrite? Certainly not. Peter was still an Apostle though ailed. So therefore can one not say that is a prophet prophesies falsely once then he can still be a prophet?
If one holds to this 100% will it not also hinder us from ever trying to step out in faith and speak a word?
Another interesting thing that came to me when reading was this.
Deuteronomy 13:1-3 “If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the LORD your God is testing you, to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
First, is that one can do a sign and be false. Second, is that the word is still what you need to heed and a standard. Third, it was not merely the false prophet testing you but the Lord. So, as it is told in the end times lying wonders will be done and this will be the Lord testing us allowing this power into false hands so we ought to take note and be ready by the truth.
I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with waiting in excitement and anticipation when we come across things like this child’s vision if we use caution and are not dogmatic until the time comes to be dogmatic and if we do not use them as the means to lead people to salvation. These untested and unconfirmed dreams and visions should never be used to witness to others. Only the Gospel of Jesus should be used! Taking those factors into consideration, here are two videos I’m going to share today that are a blessing. One by Pastor Robert Breaker (updated 2022 version) and the short 7 min video are both awesome so while we wait for this new exciting possibility please enjoy the videos below and if this one passes us by look forward to the next expectation with the same enthusiasm and excitement because one of these times it will be THE time and there is no harm in looking forward with child like wonder for Jesus to come for us! 🙂 May the Lord bless you and Maranatha!!
*** EXCELLENT WORD TO CONSIDER IN THIS 7MIN VIDEO UPDATE ADDED 4/3/18 ***
Could The Rapture Finally Come in 2022?
*** The Father of the Swedish 8 year old’s update 3/30/18 ***
{ If you watch on YouTube you can read the comments posted by others. I think it is a good idea to pray for him and his dad at this time as well. The Lord’s will be done for them. }
“I still stand with my sons vision. For me Sunday still what i look for. But i promised to take down the video if the earthquake did not pass. So i keep my word. But it don’t change what my son saw and has no prior knowledge of. But i made this video for you to wright what you want about me. So please feel free. I will still love you and God bless you.”
